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NeHoMaR · Jan 05, 2007, 06:14 AM // 06:14

Add the feature to game to add multiple copies of the same hero. Example: play heroes' battles with a full team of Paragons, or full team of Elementalists, Necros, whatever, or 2 Paragons heroes, 2 Ritualist heroes, etc, etc, etc.

(I am not sure if this idea is already here in forum, I searched and see nothing)

Helcaraxe · Jan 05, 2007, 06:52 AM // 06:52

no... just no... bad idea

Skyy High · Jan 05, 2007, 07:09 AM // 07:09

We already have duplicate warriors, eles, necros, and rangers. Leave some room for heros from future campaigns, I think (I do however think that having 3 hero eles available would be a bad idea...)

Horseman Of War · Jan 05, 2007, 07:23 AM // 07:23

4 mesmers will eat your eyes

NeHoMaR · Jan 05, 2007, 07:56 AM // 07:56

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Originally Posted by Helcaraxe

no... just no... bad idea

Why?

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Originally Posted by Skyy High

We already have duplicate warriors, eles, necros, and rangers. Leave some room for heros from future campaigns, I think (I do however think that having 3 hero eles available would be a bad idea...)

future campaigns? you mean wait for a new chapter and "hope" they add a new Paragon hero? no thanks.

Warriors, eles, necros, and rangers? I wanna play Heroes' Battles with a full team of the same primary profession, what problem you see in that? You can do it everywhere with real people, why not with heroes?

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Originally Posted by Horseman Of War

4 mesmers will eat your eyes

You partially can do that right now, being you a mesmer + mesmer hero, + 2 eles/mesmer with mesmer skills.

Not A Fifty Five · Jan 05, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20

I honestly don't know why they do this. I agree with the OP adamantly. Anet's so weird sometimes o.O

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Originally Posted by Horseman Of War

4 mesmers will eat your eyes

Yeah no monk. durrrrrrrrrrr. screw that comment

Also, you can theoretically have 3 of the same class for say eles or warriors, but what if you wanna be the monk? Hero monks suck, what if I wanna be the monk and have 3 ele heroes?

freekedoutfish · Jan 05, 2007, 09:02 AM // 09:02

Im not a PvP'er, so Ill assume you have the same choice of henches and heroes as PvE people. Cant you have up to about 3-4 AI of each professions by using two Heros and two henches of the same class?

In PvE you could have AI of up to 4 monks, 4 warriors, 4 elementals, etc etc etc. Doesnt the same apply to PvP and render this a mute thread?

Xenex Xclame · Jan 05, 2007, 09:11 AM // 09:11

Hero Battles are 3 Heros +you, no henchies avialable.

freekedoutfish · Jan 05, 2007, 10:42 AM // 10:42

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Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame

Hero Battles are 3 Heros +you, no henchies avialable.

That allows for you + 2 Heroes of the same profession, so doesnt that cover what the OP wanted? A team of basically all the same profession?

Xenex Xclame · Jan 05, 2007, 11:28 AM // 11:28

Yeah, but he wants you +3 heros of same profesion,im thinking along the lines of some spike build or something like that.

GedLongbow · Jan 05, 2007, 11:49 AM // 11:49

If you did this you would either nerf the whole game or have to add...maybe 20 heroes. No way is this gonna happen. Horrible idea, it'd rig EVERYTHING. Kill the meaning in BALANCED.

Dougal Kronik · Jan 05, 2007, 03:46 PM // 15:46

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Play with real players in TA, or play Hero battles with up to 3 Rangers, Monks, Warriors, Necromancers, or Elementalists.

Not A Fifty Five · Jan 05, 2007, 04:08 PM // 16:08

I rly don't see why there's so much hostility to this... People seem to think 3 heroes of the same type is overpowering?????? How is say a monk and 3 eles overpowering in ta? This is just weird.

Rakeman · Jan 05, 2007, 04:39 PM // 16:39

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Originally Posted by Not A Fifty Five

I rly don't see why there's so much hostility to this... People seem to think 3 heroes of the same type is overpowering?????? How is say a monk and 3 eles overpowering in ta? This is just weird.

I agree with what you are saying... in PvE, you can have multiple of the same hero with multiple people (example: if I equip Koss and my friend does, her Koss is renamed Sunspear Warrior). They could do something like that. The only problem I see with this is that the heroes would have all the same skills and equipment, unless some new mechanic was added in. Like you say, right now you can be an ele, have 2 eles, and a monk, but you can't BE a monk and have 3 eles.

NeHoMaR · Jan 05, 2007, 05:35 PM // 17:35

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Originally Posted by GedLongbow

If you did this you would either nerf the whole game or have to add...maybe 20 heroes. No way is this gonna happen. Horrible idea, it'd rig EVERYTHING. Kill the meaning in BALANCED.

Why is unbalanced, for example, play Heroes' Battles with 4 Paragons? WHY? You and me could play with 8 Paragons any mission or GvG with real people, is that unbalanced too?

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Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik

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Play with real players in TA, or play Hero battles with up to 3 Rangers, Monks, Warriors, Necromancers, or Elementalists.

I already can do that, why you tell me something that I know? I created this thread because I want to make different things to that.

Lord Zado · Jan 05, 2007, 05:49 PM // 17:49

While I agree we should have access to more than 2 of every profession, I don't think it will happen in this chapter. If you allowed people to just use copies of heroes they already have, they would basically be getting free weapons, runes and insignias that match the copied hero, which is unbalanced.

It could be a Hero battle only thing where you get Zaishen heroes or something that you can equip like a PvP character. That would be the only way to make it work.

As far as PvE goes, the heroes are a fundamental part of the storyline, so the only way to get new heroes in PvE is if ANet worked them into the story...even if it's just some simple quest like getting Sousuke/Jin. I just don't see ANet doing that for this chapter, but there's lots of room for hero expansion in the future and I'm sure they'll use that as a selling point.

NeHoMaR · Jan 05, 2007, 06:47 PM // 18:47

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Originally Posted by Lord Zado

As far as PvE goes, the heroes are a fundamental part of the storyline, so ...

Storyline? Weapons? Runes? not a problem in PvP. About PvE heroes, well, I think is good as already is, you can "fix" the problem using henchies.

I don't see any problem in adding a feature with availability (in PvP) to "re-select" a hero you already have selected in your party, just making a clone with the generic name that already exist, or name it Dunkoro 2, Dunkoro 3, that doesn't matter at all in PvP. I don't think we must wait a full campaign for this "little" feature.

Lord Zado · Jan 05, 2007, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

Storyline? Weapons? Runes? not a problem in PvP. About PvE heroes, well, I think is good as already is, you can "fix" the problem using henchies.

I don't see any problem in adding a feature with availability (in PvP) to "re-select" a hero you already have selected in your party, just making a clone with the generic name that already exist, or name it Dunkoro 2, Dunkoro 3, that doesn't matter at all in PvP. I don't think we must wait a full campaign for this "little" feature.

I did say....

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Originally Posted by Lord Zado

It could be a Hero battle only thing where you get Zaishen heroes or something that you can equip like a PvP character. That would be the only way to make it work.

This would be a more refined solution than Dunkoro 2, Dunkoro 3 and it's exactly what you are asking for.

NeHoMaR · Jan 07, 2007, 03:05 AM // 03:05

Well, I know GW developers actually play this game, and also read this forum; I am happy for that! You don't get that advantage with other games

So, I expect a developer playing HB and thinking: Man! I need another Paragon here for the build I want! and seriously think in adding something in the next patch.